shoesandsocks Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 So i was helping a freind with his jeep liberty and we were installing his ome springs to my surprise he was using ome 928 springs for the front he said that ome recomends using the 927 but alot of guys run the 928 because they give a lil extra lift and these are the same springs that are for the ome hd springs for the .5 lift (supossed but most people get more) for the r50 so wondering if there are more options for the front cause everything i see says the liberty front springs should fit our front struts maybe theres a less expensive alternative out there. I wont be trying this because i already have ironman lift springs for the front but i just wanted to throw the idea incase we have someone willing to try i might do it later as i will so have two r50s in my possesion. just a refrence check arb part catalouge. http://www.rocky-road.com/liberty.pdf http://www.rocky-road.com/pathfinder.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 They run the 928?? If its the same fit, then heck yeah that opens up options! Brilliant information man! I'll dig into this and see what else I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 yeah same part number was a completly random find just wondering if like the rough county or procomp springs will work they have awesome spring rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Do you know if the Liberty is different between the 2 generations? or at least which gen your friend's was? I'm assuming 1st gen (02-07). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 they changed after 2008 his is a kj 2005 model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 If we end up having the same coil size as the KJ (1st Gen Liberty), then according to the coil info for the ironman coils for the KJ we also fit the KK (2nd Gen Liberty) and KA....what the heck is the KA? "Front Strut Springs fit KJ, KK & KA with 3.7 L Gas engine, 0-50kg Additional Weight, for 1.50" lift." http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-Ironman_Front_Coil_Springs-805.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) KA=dodge nitro and i know u were trying to get the ironman springs from sierra expeditions according to them i got the last set that are gona be imorted for a while so if those work that would be awesome Edited January 28, 2013 by shoesandsocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 and i know u were trying to get the ironman springs from sierra expeditions according to them i got the last set that are gona be imorted for a while so if those work that would be awesome Darn you. Haha, well do you already have them or are they still headed your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 they shipped from nj on friday and then i just need the wj adapter for the rear and im all set. i just hope the lift isnt to much i dont have the tire for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Please post up a lot of the dimension measurements when you are putting it all together (inner dia, outer, length of coil, etc.), I'm hoping to do a similar lift too, soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynomax Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 So i was helping a freind with his jeep liberty and we were installing his ome springs to my surprise he was using ome 928 springs for the front he said that ome recomends using the 927 but alot of guys run the 928 because they give a lil extra lift and these are the same springs that are for the ome hd springs for the .5 lift (supossed but most people get more) for the r50 so wondering if there are more options for the front cause everything i see says the liberty front springs should fit our front struts maybe theres a less expensive alternative out there.\\\ didn't think there was too many other people out there with the ironman lift, how did you decide on that? It seems I have got more than the OME, and less than the AC with my ironman 35mm lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 i decided on them cause im a broke ass. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 So i was helping a freind with his jeep liberty and we were installing his ome springs to my surprise he was using ome 928 springs for the front he said that ome recomends using the 927 but alot of guys run the 928 because they give a lil extra lift Can you ask your buddy where he heard about that? I've been digging into a bunch of liberty forums for more info and coming up dry.. I just want to find at least one piece of evidence before I give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynomax Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 i decided on them cause im a broke ass. lol haha, good answer, me too. I got em because they were about half as much as ac or OME, and my back ones were shot, so all four of these were about the same as two rears! I like to call myself cheap... sounds better than broke.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 haha, good answer, me too. I got em because they were about half as much as ac or OME, and my back ones were shot, so all four of these were about the same as two rears! I like to call myself cheap... sounds better than broke.. I prefer the term "Thrifty" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Can you ask your buddy where he heard about that? I've been digging into a bunch of liberty forums for more info and coming up dry.. I just want to find at least one piece of evidence before I give it a try. x2! Very interested if KJ springs work because that opens up a myriad of options! And most likely cheaper. I'd imagine someone just needs to measure and determine spring rates? Any more info is very much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelfilter Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 x2! Very interested if KJ springs work because that opens up a myriad of options! And most likely cheaper. I'd imagine someone just needs to measure and determine spring rates? Any more info is very much appreciated Ditto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) i hear ya just looking at this thread this guy seemed to use them without any problems to the fit and install didn't like the ride though but the did fit. im asking where he found the post to use them on his liberty. http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=49358 Edited January 30, 2013 by shoesandsocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linewar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm a former Liberty CRD (diesel) owner, and was very active on that forum. OME lifts for the Liberties are kinda the standard, I chose however to do a lift by JBA. (Jeepin' By Al) Here's my install thread for my Liberty: http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53361&hilit=epic Just from looking, the major difference I see is the front strut assembly. Sure, you could use the OME 948's in the back if they're a direct fit, but the front strut assemblies and coils wouldn't cross over. The Liberty has a clevis setup (a lot of KJ'ers use big washers where the clevis attaches to the strut when the springs start to sag) and, well, frankly, I can't quite categorize the R50's setup. A company out of Big Bear, CA, manufactured a full lift setup for the Liberty with OME components called a Frankenlift. http://www.boulderbars.com/frankenlift.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Are the Diesel option and Gas version built differently? Edited January 30, 2013 by Iceman2989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linewar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yes; the block of the CRD sits lower in the subframe, so the pumpkin of the front axle assembly is pushed out more toward the driver's side wheel. That makes the driver's side half-shaft shorter than the passenger-side, thus you can't go as high without serious modification because of the severity of the CV angle. The diesel engine also weighs more, so OME heavy-duty is the standard for the front assembly on a CRD, where medium-duty is the standard for a gasser and heavy-duty would get used if you have a winch bumper. Seriously, I know way more about the KJ than I do about my Pathfinder. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Seriously, I know way more about the KJ than I do about my Pathfinder. . . . I'm glad you converted to the Pathfinder so we can steal your knowledge! Are JBA and OME pretty much the only options out there for the KJ? Or are there oddball offshoots of other companies that do a suspension lift for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linewar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Some people were running Rancho or SkyJacker lifts, and several of the more adventurous assembled their own kits to their preference, but I didn't have the experience for that. I limited myself to the pre-assembled, packaged lifts. Apart from my JBA lift, a kit that had OME was the standard for lifted KJ's. Some used Rancho strut assemblies with OME springs, some used full OME setups, but OME springs were the status quo for lifted KJ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman2989 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Good to know. Do you happen to know if the KJ springs (front) were interchangeable with any of the other jeep models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoesandsocks Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Okay so what i was reading is the 928 can be used but is considered to be a lil harsh for the liberty but it will fit from what ive seen is this true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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