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Pimshady57
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I have been looking through the forums the past few weeks, and am putting a plan together for the work needed on my 2001 4X4 Manual. I recently bought the pathy for a great deal, but that also means it comes with its issues.

 

The clutch is done for, as it won't engage until I have released about 90% of the pedal. When it does engage, it still does not make enough contact to move forward.

I have also found that there is an oil leak coming from the back of the engine (RMS/gasket). 

 

My main target initially is to get the car moving again. The engine sounds strong, and there is practically no rust (AZ car).

 

I do plan on outsourcing the RMS/clutch work. The RMS I think is currently outside of my skill level and don't have the tools to prop up the engine etc.

 

Here are the parts I plan to replace while the transmission is out:

1. RMS/Oil pan gaskets front and back/Oil pump gasket (2x)

2. Flywheel/clutch/clutch hose/pilot bearing/slave and master cylinder/pilot bushing

 

Anything I am missing while the transmission is out? 

I am on the fence if I should also go for transmission rebuild. I would like to attempt this by myself in the future. 

 

Once the car is moving again, I plan to drive it around and fix it as I go, as the other issues I have identified seem minor (as long as I keep on top of the fluids)

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2 hours ago, Pimshady57 said:

I have been looking through the forums the past few weeks, and am putting a plan together for the work needed on my 2001 4X4 Manual. I recently bought the pathy for a great deal, but that also means it comes with its issues.

 

The clutch is done for, as it won't engage until I have released about 90% of the pedal. When it does engage, it still does not make enough contact to move forward.

I have also found that there is an oil leak coming from the back of the engine (RMS/gasket). 

 

My main target initially is to get the car moving again. The engine sounds strong, and there is practically no rust (AZ car).

 

I do plan on outsourcing the RMS/clutch work. The RMS I think is currently outside of my skill level and don't have the tools to prop up the engine etc.

 

Here are the parts I plan to replace while the transmission is out:

1. RMS/Oil pan gaskets front and back/Oil pump gasket (2x)

2. Flywheel/clutch/clutch hose/pilot bearing/slave and master cylinder/pilot bushing

 

Anything I am missing while the transmission is out? 

I am on the fence if I should also go for transmission rebuild. I would like to attempt this by myself in the future. 

 

Once the car is moving again, I plan to drive it around and fix it as I go, as the other issues I have identified seem minor (as long as I keep on top of the fluids)

I don't blame you for outsourcing the clutch replacement to a local repair shop, it's a big job, and that's what I did when my clutch gave up the ghost. Replacing the clutch hydralic hose is not a bad idea just due to it's age, but I'm curious as to why you want to replace the clutch master and clutch slave cylinders. Are they having issues? You should also be able to reuse the flywheel unless it was absolutely smoked by the previous owner.

 

Chris.

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11 hours ago, CamperDan said:

I don't blame you for outsourcing the clutch replacement to a local repair shop, it's a big job, and that's what I did when my clutch gave up the ghost. Replacing the clutch hydralic hose is not a bad idea just due to it's age, but I'm curious as to why you want to replace the clutch master and clutch slave cylinders. Are they having issues? You should also be able to reuse the flywheel unless it was absolutely smoked by the previous owner.

 

Chris.

The clutch hydraulic hose and slave cylinder have seen better days. The master wasn’t too expensive, so I put it on the list, but most likely will take it back off. 

As for the flywheel, I don’t know what the previous owner did with it once the clutch started to give, so might play it safe and get a replacement. I know it’s expensive, but then I know it’ll be good for a long while since you can’t really resurface it. 

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50 minutes ago, Pimshady57 said:

The clutch hydraulic hose and slave cylinder have seen better days. The master wasn’t too expensive, so I put it on the list, but most likely will take it back off. 

As for the flywheel, I don’t know what the previous owner did with it once the clutch started to give, so might play it safe and get a replacement. I know it’s expensive, but then I know it’ll be good for a long while since you can’t really resurface it. 

OK I guess it wouldn't be a bad Idea to have a replacement flywheel on hand just in case the original one can't be reused. As it's always better to "have and not need than to need and not have" it's definitely worth fixing and keeping on the road, as these manual transmission R50's are rare and hard to find. Replacing the hydralic hose and clutch slave cylinder is very easy, Wishing you all the best with your repairs on your new R50👨🏾‍🔧🙏🏾

 

Chris.

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