Possible Body Lift for R51

[skywhr]

This guy says he can make custom body lifts for most vehicles;

 

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BodyLiftKit.shtml

 

I have an email into him, waiting for a response

more to come

[skywhr]

This is the info needed for him to fab a body lift.

 

 

I've got an XYZ vehicle, do you make a body lift kit for it?

 

* If it is not listed here, then 4Crawler Offroad doesn't have a design available for that application. But, everything listed on this page, outside the early Toyota 4Runner kits, has been designed with the help of people just like you that asked this very question.

* If you are willing to do the small amount of research needed to help 4Crawler Offroad design and build the kit, chances are the answer will be YES!

o First, verify that the vehicle uses a body-on-frame construction.

+ Many modern vehicles use a uni-body or uni-frame construction where the body and frame end up being one piece.

+ If there are no body mounts, bushings or bolts visible underneath, then chances are the body can't be raised off the frame with a body lift.

o Then, you need to know how many body mounts the vehicle has, a rough idea of what size they are (i.e. 2" dia, 2.5" dia., etc.) what size the mounting hardware is (diameter and working length for each mount - sometimes there is unused thread on bolts).

o If items need relocating like bumpers, radiators, etc., we'll need to know details on how they are mounted to the frame. You'll need to supply information on the size of the mounting bolts and the spacing of the holes (e.g. 12mm bolts, 60mm on center - then a bracket can be designed based upon this data).

o Getting this data won't be all that hard, get under your rig and count the body mount locations. Find where all the bolts are, you should be able to loosen and remove one at a time, pull it out, measure it and put it back.

+ Get dimensions, take pictures, and send them to 4Crawler Offroad.

+ Bolt lengths are measured from the bottom of the head to the end of the shaft, DO NOT include the height of the head in the length. Also, some vehicles have, for example a 5" long bolt, but with 1" of thread exposed when installed, so, this should be noted, e.g. 'Bolt 5" long w/ 1" exposed thread'.

+ Bolt diameters are measured at the shaft, its not the size of wrench that fits on the head.

+ If a bolt goes into a captive nut inside the body, then the thread pitch (i.e. SAE, this will be Threads Per Inch, and if metric it'll be in mm/thread) will need to be measured.

+ Don't assume all bolts are the same diameter or length. They are usually the same side to side, but can be vastly different sizes in different locations. And don't just measure down from the underside of the floor or guess, you really need to pull the bolt out, measure the length and best if you can send a photo of all the bolts side by side with a ruler for scale. If should be no problem to remove a body mount bolt, no vehicle support is needed, gravity will keep the body in place, just make sure you put them back before driving it!

o So you provide 4Crawler Offroad with the specifications, you will get a "custom" kit with no extra charge for the custom design work.

+ 4Crawler Offroad will hope to make up the design cost in additional sales of kits for that application.

o This was recently done for the Kia Sportage body lift kit. Within 2 weeks of the initial contact, a kit had been designed, manufactured, and installed on the owners truck. A similar turnaround was seen fior the 3rd and 4th generation Toyota 4Runners.

o A 3" body lift is about the tallest that is safe and reasonable.

+ If planning a body lift over 3", please consider cutting the brackets off the frame and raise them up the desired amount and weld them on with added bracing. The life you save may be your own!

o XYZ is not any specific vehicle, replace XYZ with Dodge, Jeep, Ford, or whatever vehicle you have and are interested in having a body lift kit designed for.

o Cost will depend on the quantity and size of the blocks and hardware desired, here is some typical prices of some of the items:

+ 2" OD UHMW blocks are $5.00/ea. for 1" tall and add $1.50/inch (or any fraction thereof) over 1" tall.

+ 2-1/2" OD UHMW blocks run $6.00/ea. for 1" tall and add $2.00/inch (or fraction thereof) over 1" tall.

+ 3" OD UHMW blocks run $8.00/ea. for 1" tall and add $3.00/inch (or fraction thereof) over 1" tall.

+ 3-1/2" OD UHMW blocks run $10.00/ea. for 1" tall and add $4.00/inch (or fraction thereof) over 1" tall.

+ Longer bolts can run from $2.50/ea. to $5.00/ea. depending on diameter, length and grade.

Edited May 2, 2008 by skywhr

[super6turbo4]

Unless you put this in the wrong section the '05 up Pathys are body on frame.

[skywhr]

anyone up for the task of taking the measurements? then we can all do a group order?

 

i am not detail oriented enough to do it accurately unfortunately