tad, thanks for the info brother. ive been looking at those and for a while those were my first pick, but a guy from another forum turned me on to alcan leafs. the only problem with that is im going to need to get an estimated weight together so they can build the springs to spec. now here comes the price vs. versatility. do i go with the alcan and spend more money or do i go with the 44044s? oh so many decisions, good thing im in no rush to make a decision.