red95xe Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 PM me your VIN and I will double check Sent PM sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor636 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Just found a VG33E block for $200.00, 17 miles away. Does $200.00 sound about right? As long as there isn't a rod through the side of it! Seriously though, that sounds pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 x2. As long as there isn't something horribly wrong with it, that is a pretty good price. You plan on going through everything anyway, so just make sure there is some sort of return policy if it is cracked or otherwise mangled. You can probably sell some of the VG30 stuff and almost pay for it that way. Hopefully it is good, and I'm glad we were able to steer you to the VG33 as I am sure you will be happier with the gains. I would like to do the same, but my 95 WD21 only has 106k on the motor so I haven't been able to talk myself into replacing it. Here's hoping for 200+ hp without too much effort/$. B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 For the most part, there are 3 ways to make power in the VG series motor: More displacement, Cams, Exhaust (headers). Of course there is more, but those are the most effective. Thanks for taking interest in this build. An extra set of eyes always helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 I've got another lead on a brand new VG33E short block assembly with oil pump for about $700.00. Unfortunately, it has the larger crank snout. My question here is: Has any one used Mr. 510's crank snout adapter with success? Thus being able to re-install the alternator, power steering pump, and A/C compressor with out any modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Quite a few people. I have not personally, but there are some guys in the Z31 world and our own MY1PATH, plus obviously Mr.510 himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Did you guys figure out the exhaust yet? You can use Thorley primary tubes, just fab new downpipes with a custom Y-pipe to accommodate the different front suspension. Georgia doesn't have crazy smog regulations like California so you don't have to mix and match smog specific catalytic converters. I had a system like Precise1 did before but 2 years ago upgraded it to have 2.5" components from Y-pipe back because I wanted all the stuff to match in size. I just run a 2.5" Magnaflow cat and a 2.5" Flowmaster 50 Delta Flow now which sounds great and doesn't have problems passing NJ smog rules. Edited April 12, 2013 by Tungsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor636 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 : Has any one used Mr. 510's crank snout adapter with success? Thus being able to re-install the alternator, power steering pump, and A/C compressor with out any modifications. Nefarious just got one. I've read of a few others on the board who have ordered and installed, but cant think of their names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Did you guys figure out the exhaust yet? You can use Thorley primary tubes, just fab new downpipes with a custom Y-pipe to accommodate the different front suspension. Georgia doesn't have crazy smog regulations like California so you don't have to mix and match smog specific catalytic converters. I had a system like Precise1 did before but 2 years ago upgraded it to have 2.5" components from Y-pipe back because I wanted all the stuff to match in size. I just run a 2.5" Magnaflow cat and a 2.5" Flowmaster 50 Delta Flow now which sounds great and doesn't have problems passing NJ smog rules. As of yet, no. I've emailed Mr. 510 about this, haven't gotten a reply back. It looks like the Thorley solution has the most potential. It looks like the headers themselves will fit, It's just a matter of modifying the Y-Pipe or building a new one all together. BTW, I've seen all your vids. on Youtube. Pretty cool. I'll check them out again. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Nefarious just got one. I've read of a few others on the board who have ordered and installed, but cant think of their names. Cool, I'll PM him some questions about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 As of yet, no. I've emailed Mr. 510 about this, haven't gotten a reply back. It looks like the Thorley solution has the most potential. It looks like the headers themselves will fit, It's just a matter of modifying the Y-Pipe or building a new one all together. BTW, I've seen all your vids. on Youtube. Pretty cool. I'll check them out again. Thanks. Subscribe, I got more videos on the way. I'm going to do a 0-60 run with all the bolt on mods to see how it compares to a stock truck and some other fun stuff soon. My truck definitely feels awesome on the road now even with all the weight it has to lug around. The VG33E is a great mod but I am sticking with my VG30E for now because of financial issues at the moment. A turbo VG33E is in the works right now but I haven't built anything yet. It's going to have 450hp when completed. Somehow I don't think having that much power in a Pathfinder is a good idea but why the hell not. Anyway, if you have the resources to put a VG33E in it with VG30E cams or aftermarket cams then definitely do it. The only thing I would look into is also using flat top pistons as opposed to dished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Seems to be that a 10:1 3.3L with Euro cams, e-fan, headers, MSD, and 16bit MPFI puts down 166/190 to the wheels... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Seems to be that a 10:1 3.3L with Euro cams, e-fan, headers, MSD, and 16bit MPFI puts down 166/190 to the wheels... 10:1? Is that the VG34 setup? Or was that custom pistons. I know the 3.0 has flat tops, I don't know of any 3.3 flat tops other than custom ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor636 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 He might be referring to My1Path's build. I think thats what he is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 He might be referring to My1Path's build. I think thats what he is running. OK, I remember reading something about that build over @ Z31P. It started from a intake spacer review (which I plan on doing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Yeah, MY1PATH's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Seems to be that a 10:1 3.3L with Euro cams, e-fan, headers, MSD, and 16bit MPFI puts down 166/190 to the wheels... Yes that seems about right on a OEM computer. N/A VG motors are really hard to juice power out of. 10:1? Is that the VG34 setup? Or was that custom pistons. I know the 3.0 has flat tops, I don't know of any 3.3 flat tops other than custom ordered. The OEM 3.3 are dished to reduce the compression ratio after an increase in displacement from 3.0. If you don't want to do a turbo build, custom flat-top pistons will increase power through added compression. You can use VH45DE pistons, which is a Nissan V8 but that requires you to bore the 3.3 block to 3.4 effectively creating a VG34. Another thing you might want to look into is using forged rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 I've read up on the VG34 quite a bit. Cool motor. I'd love to do it, but I've got a budget to stick to. As far as the OEM computer, there's a guy over @ Z31P with a Hardbody Truck making 216HP with a VG33E - 11:5 compression, 270/.465 cam, and a pair of killer ported heads. Other than that, I'm aware of two S12 guys making 171HP - 172HP with VG30's. Track only cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 The rods are already forged from the factory, hence why they handle 450HP without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red95xe Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 The quickest/easiest way to go VG34, in my opinion is custom pistons from EP Racing. Any bore size along with 9.5:1 compression ratio you like using stock sized pin bores. For $885.00. With these pistons you can use the stock rods and save some money. For me, it's way over my budget. Plus, the shortblock I'm looking at is already assembled with OEM pistons (8.9:1 C/R - Close enough) This is the newest forged piston out on the market that EP Racing has designed in conjunction with CP Pistons. This is a true 9.5:1 piston. Once compression is calculated this piston puts the engine at 9.2:1 compression PERFECT for boosted applications. Available in any bore size needed. PRICE – $885+SHIPPING Specs: Full Forged 2618 Aluminum Twin oil feed with radial groove for pin bore HD wrist pins Full floating pin bore design Lateral gas ports Steel Nitride top ring Napier Second Oil ring standard tension Flat top design Valve reliefs are spec’d off at 1mm oversized EPR logo for quality assurance Light weight Radial side wall for added strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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