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So my Pathfinder's been running well lately, except when the humidity is really high. If it's raining, it's even worse. It doesn't have much power before 2.5k rpm, runs rough, past 3k or so it's fine, but even maintaining speed is causing popping out the exhaust, it'll backfire a lot when it's humid as well, as if, for some reason, it's deciding it needs to run super rich when it's humid out... Any ideas? A run-down of the latest work since I'm sure not everyone saw my other thread... Timing belt is new, spark plugs, wires, rotor, throttle body was cleaned, fuel rail and fuel injectors replaced, air filter is new, maf sensor was cleaned, O2 sensor and cat replaced, exhaust leaks fixed. I just passed over 200k this morning too... I'm also only averaging 13-14mpg... I haven't replaced the distributor cap yet, but I'm considering swapping the distributor next, I'm not sure if it's working properly or not, could the crank angle sensor cause issues like this? No codes from the ECU either, everything is normal.

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Your problem is caused by the poor grounding to the ECU and MAF sensor. The problem is fixed by adding a sub harness to the MAF sensor, which adds a new ground path.

 

You should check out my MAF wiring thread here...

 

http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=26778

 

This post here is the answer to the problem:

 

http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=26778&view=findpost&p=505236

 

The way I see it is that the sub harness not only adds a ground to the MAF sensor, it also adds a new ground to the ECU. I think the problem here is that the ECU has a poor ground connection through the body to the battery which causes a voltage drop and this sub harness actually fixes that. Run the ground wire directly to the negative terminal on the battery for best results.

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Your problem is caused by the poor grounding to the ECU and MAF sensor. The problem is fixed by adding a sub harness to the MAF sensor, which adds a new ground path.

 

You should check out my MAF wiring thread here...

 

http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=26778

 

This post here is the answer to the problem:

 

http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=26778&view=findpost&p=505236

 

The way I see it is that the sub harness not only adds a ground to the MAF sensor, it also adds a new ground to the ECU. I think the problem here is that the ECU has a poor ground connection through the body to the battery which causes a voltage drop and this sub harness actually fixes that. Run the ground wire directly to the negative terminal on the battery for best results.

That is awesome! I searched for weather, didn't think to try humidity. Thanks for the links, I'm gonna pull the Pathfinder around back and try this right now!

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Alright, so I added the extra ground, and it made a difference in off the line power immediately, but I've still got the miss from 2-2.5k, feels like a rather random miss, not predictable at all... It's not humid enough for the humidity issue, the rains from the hurricane seem to be gone... We'll see what happens when I swap the distributor... if anything, it'll be one more thing narrowed out, and cheap from the boneyard...

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try a new cap first. If you do change the distributor, make sure the timing is properly set.

 

Good luck.

I got pretty good with setting the timing with how many times I've taken the distributor out :lol:

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This morning it's idling rougher, I have to hold my foot on the gas or it'll just about die, dips around 500-600rpm if I'm not giving it a little gas... I'm going to snag the MAF sensor and TPS sensor from the junkyard today while I get the distributor... I'm also likely going to verify my timing belt install this weekend.

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Got a new distributor cap, as the junkyard Pathfinder is gone now... Didn't change anything. I'm going to check my timing belt this weekend, make sure I did it just right, and I'm going to also redo all the rewiring I did with solder instead of crimp connectors.

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Got some sprinkles and high humidity this morning(around 90%), and the Pathfinder is definitely handling the rain better. It's pretty much a night and day difference. Thanks!

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