amyj1969

I want to thank everyone for your advice. He got it and is running great. There were two things he had to do, first when he checked the tension between the 2 cams, the tensioner would move, he left the allenw rench in the keyhole and watched it while he tested tension and got that straightened. Also there was a bunch of build up on the tensioner from the old belt. He took it off and I cleaned it up, and when he put it back on the new belt stayed where it was supposed to. The build up was making uneven spots on the tensioner, so it would not stay where it was supposed to. Again thank you for all of your advice and suggestions. I am able to take my kids to school again!!!

couldnt afford to change tensioner, truck has been down for 2 weeks and i am not working. i cleaned the tensioner up, all the timing marks are in line. i think he is done for the day, too cold and truck is in driveway cause we have another car in garage that isnt running. i think in the morning he is going to go ahead and put it back together then, if you think it will be all right. thank you so much for your help. We really appreciate it

Hopefully this works. Let me know

That is what is weird cause the old belt stayed right on, with n guide to keep it on. The tensioner had some rubber or tar build up, i expect from the old belt, took it off and ckeaned it up, hopefully that will help. This is just craziness cause everything worked perfect with the old belt but did not want to take the chance of losing the motor so we got a new blet, 2 infact cause the first was a cheap one and when it did that we figured it wasnt made right so we bought a Gates belt. I will try to do the pics from the place you said.

we dont have the front guide on the crank gear yet, cause he wants to make sure the belt is right before he puts it back together. the back on is on. the old belt stayed on the cams without the front guide, it didnt walk off the cams. he has had the tenion set right every time, the tensioner has been at 5 at 5:30, at almost every angle with the right tension but the belt still walks forward coming off the cams.

here is another pic

I took some pics, but it wont upload them, says they are too large and I amnot sure how to make them smaller. I do have the square tooth belt.

I'll go take a pic, the best that I can. I sure do appreciate the help

We have tried 2 differnet timing belts, once with directional arrows right way, and once the other way thinking maybe factory stamp was wrong, because bought a cheap one. then bought a Gates belt,, tension is completely correct, finally got it figured out and tensioner is setting at the 5 o'clock position Tension on belt had been tried at 5 5:30 and 6, there is a 90 degree angle when you twist and between 13 mm and 14.5 mm as the manual says. Belt is still walking itself off of the pulleys. Spun tensioner, rotates smoothly and barely any noise. Once when he had it readfy and tried it, the belt walked itself backward towards the block. come to find out the spring had popped off of the tensioner. Does anyone have any more suggestions? You have all helped me out a lot and this is our only running vehicle and we are about to the point of towing it to the scrap yard. It has been down for 2 weeks now. Thank you

yea it was a different part number. i contacted the parts store and they exchanged the wrong pum with the right one, even up. just concerned about the tensioner and the spring, but timing marks are lined up and tension on timing belt is right, so i think he is going to put it back together and as far as the rad and tranny lines he is going with the tranny cooler and just bypasss the rad al together, just has to find a place to mount the cooler, prob have to take off the grill and palce it in fron of ac rad, no room between rad and ac so has to do it that way. thank you

He hasn't gotten it back together yet, just wanting to make sure about the tensioner and spring. he was wondering if the spring is supposed to have attention when it rests against the stud? This spring doesn't have any tension but it is resting against the stud. havent figured out what gonna do about the tranny lines, prob depends on what is the cheaper rout, cause money is running very low, but thank you to all of you for the suggestions and info

Thank you very much. I think that is what we are going to do, but now have another problem. transmission cooling line connector snapped at radiator, just about outta money and now dont know what to doa bout that with a new radiator costing around $150

he said it isnt backwards, it just wont work at the 5 o'clock position. He thinks that is where it was before he first tore it down. We are about ready to just put it back together like it is because it runs really good, just dont want something to happen and lose the motor.It is a shame, because with the wrong water pump everything l;ined up perfectly, timing marks, tension and all and it ran and sounded better than it ever did. Which it runs good now, but just worried about the darn tensioner

first, the water pump was for a 96 and up, my pathy is a 91, only difference is where the pulley goes on, the nose sticks out further for a newer one. Nothing else moves when he tightens the t belt. they sya to have the little keyhole in the 5 o'clock position, but it dont work there. it is in the 11 oclock position, but he turned it over once and it still runs very smooth and the belt is fine. the cams dont move when he has it there, and it is perfectly in time. like i said everything is fine, tensioner just doesnt sit where manual and the timing change thread says it should. runs good

ok, he tore it down, put on the new water pump, got it in time, put everyhting back on, but when he went to put on the belts, alt, w pump, etc, the belts would not line up woth the pulleys. Come to find out the parts store gave us the wrong water pump, and regretfully so he had to tear it all back apart, and what a shame cause it sounded so good. Anyhow got the right pump, put it , aligned the timing marks, now the tensioner is the problem. when he puts the tensioner where it should be, the allen wrench hole at the 5 o'clock position, the timing belt walks itself off of the pulleys. Right now the allen wrench is setting around 11 o'clock, the belt sits just fine, and doesnt walk itsef back off of the pulleys, but there is no pressure or tension on the spring behind it. The timing belt will not stay on the pulleys if the tension is set at 5 o'clock. when the wrong water pump was on, it was perfect. Now he cant get it set right and we have read the thread about changing timing belt, but the tensioner will not set at 5 o'clock cause the beltworks itself off of the pulleys and it makes no sense.