Thanks for the input that was very helpful. Tried to look up Pathogenic and not finding them or the thread. Love the TR10....will see if I can find the pictures of the TR3 I restored for my uncle....some 45 years ago now.... (yikes that sounds old). He was 6'7" tall and with the TR3 model with just the package shelf he fit in it....drove it around europe where he picked it up new. I was taken to my baptism in it and 20 some years later restored it for him. I reach out to Gamellot on the XFER case. Thx again.