[PATHY DOWN! WONT START!]

Relay mod: I had to do this to mine...

starter relay mod is pretty easy, you just need a standard 4 terminal relay from the auto parts store, ( 5 terminal can be used except you don't use one of the terminals),

relay hooks up like this, the relay will have a number next to each terminal, this is where each number goes:

#30 - 12 volts in - run a wire from positive battery to terminal #30 should use a fuse inline with this wire

#87 - output of relay to what ever you want to turn on, in this case the starter solenoid, remove the wire from the starter solenoid, and in it's place run a wire from terminal #87 to the starter solenoid

#86 - control current in ( turns the relay on) - extend the wire you removed from the solenoid and connect to this terminal (#86)

#85 - ground, run a wire from this terminal to a ground, (I usually just loop a short wire from the terminal up to the mounting screw for the relay)

That's the starter relay mod, basically when you turn the key to crank, power turns the relay on allowing power to flow from the relay to the solenoid, using this mod gives the power a shorter distance to travel to the solenoid.

As I said I did this on my 94 and it lasted about a year before the starter finally crapped out, you have already replaced your starter, I have had no luck with reman starters and is why I just bought a brand new on from Rockauto.com and so far it is working perfect. It is possible the replacement starter you got is bad.

almost forgot if you happen to get a 5 terminal relay the only difference will be it will have a terminal "87A", just don't use this one, the relay's with the 87A are known as change over relays, what they do is when the relay is off 87A has power/ 87 does not, when the relay is turned on 87A has no power but 87 does

No, on the relay.

30 is power in from the battery,

87 power out when relay is on to the solenoid

86 - from the switch ( old wire that went to the solenid)

85 ground

Basically you unplug the small wire that normally goes to the solenoid and connect it to 86 on the relay, than run wire from 87 to the solenoid

[Starter Problem?]

You will need to probably run a new starter relay i had the same problem in my 95 and had to do the same thing.

[Pullied the motor]

Don't worry i was sort of thinking the same thing reguarding his choice of language.

 

Doh!

I had just seen the thread was recently added to and didn't check to see how old the thread itself was.

 

And normally I keep my mouth shut regarding criticism, just something in that forced me to speak out.

 

[Pathfinder Mileage POLL]

168k bought it 2 1/2 years ago with 144k.

[Pullied the motor]

 

 

WOOOOOOOT!!!!! She runs! Just started her up 15 minutes ago, then sucked down a cold one. Install when much faster than removal. I found that the 2 top tranny bolts are incredibly easy to get to with 3 feet of extensions and a U joint. When I took them out it was hard and painfull and took about 20 minutes to get them out.

 

I still need to bring her up to temp and top off coolant + tranny fluid.

 

And then clean the disaster of a garage I have, for my grad party on saturday (only took me six years )

 

 

Cheers

 

So did you have to unbolt the torque converter or did you just leave it bolted? The reason why i ask is because i'm in the process of pulling the motor out of my 98.

[R50 Pathfinder 3.3L Headers]

I'm interested as well if you could give an update.

[my pathfinder wont start... 1993 4x4 automatic]

Sorry, new to the forum.

I'm interested in doing this mod as i have the same starting problem.

My question is, are there 2 wires running to the solenoid? (#87 output, #86 Input)

 

starter relay mod is pretty easy, you just need a standard 4 terminal relay from the auto parts store, ( 5 terminal can be used except you don't use one of the terminals),

relay hooks up like this, the relay will have a number next to each terminal, this is where each number goes:

#30 - 12 volts in - run a wire from positive battery to terminal #30 should use a fuse inline with this wire

#87 - output of relay to what ever you want to turn on, in this case the starter solenoid, remove the wire from the starter solenoid, and in it's place run a wire from terminal #87 to the starter solenoid

#86 - control current in ( turns the relay on) - extend the wire you removed from the solenoid and connect to this terminal (#86)

#85 - ground, run a wire from this terminal to a ground, (I usually just loop a short wire from the terminal up to the mounting screw for the relay)

That's the starter relay mod, basically when you turn the key to crank, power turns the relay on allowing power to flow from the relay to the solenoid, using this mod gives the power a shorter distance to travel to the solenoid.

As I said I did this on my 94 and it lasted about a year before the starter finally crapped out, you have already replaced your starter, I have had no luck with reman starters and is why I just bought a brand new on from Rockauto.com and so far it is working perfect. It is possible the replacement starter you got is bad.

almost forgot if you happen to get a 5 terminal relay the only difference will be it will have a terminal "87A", just don't use this one, the relay's with the 87A are known as change over relays, what they do is when the relay is off 87A has power/ 87 does not, when the relay is turned on 87A has no power but 87 does