R50 bottoms much too easily....

[MTGunner]

Want rear shocks but want longer, beefier shocks. Who makes a shock for my 2000 Pathy R50? MTG

[Strato_54]

I believe bilstien makes good shocks that fit on the pathfinder

[colinnwn]

If it is bottoming out, you shouldn't fix it with shocks. Besides aftermarket spring shocks, shocks were originally meant to stop oscillations, not carry load.

Either your springs are worn and you need new ones, or you are carrying loads exceeding the original design and need stiffer springs.

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[MTGunner]

OK, not carrying anything. Springs must be shot. Might have to look into new springs. Land Rover springs may be in the future with a 2” spacer on the struts. Then new shocks. 

[Strato_54]

i would stay away from spacer if your going to go with land rover springs just buy bigger struts and do the whole thing 

[PathyDude17]

9 hours ago, Strato_54 said:

i would stay away from spacer if your going to go with land rover springs just buy bigger struts and do the whole thing 

Bigger struts? New front coils and new struts would help, but I don’t know that there’s such a thing as getting bigger struts, in terms of suspension travel. I also don’t think we have any struts that we would call Heavy Duty. Perhaps Old Man Emu, but everyone seems happy with their KYB’s, myself included.

[zakzackzachary]

15 hours ago, MTGunner said:

OK, not carrying anything. Springs must be shot. Might have to look into new springs. Land Rover springs may be in the future with a 2” spacer on the struts. Then new shocks. 

12 hours ago, Strato_54 said:

i would stay away from spacer if your going to go with land rover springs just buy bigger struts and do the whole thing 

 

Pretty sure MTG meant spacers on top of the front struts. But still, spring lift is recommended over a big spacer lift like 2". 

[Strato_54]

4 hours ago, PathyDude17 said:

Bigger struts? New front coils and new struts would help, but I don’t know that there’s such a thing as getting bigger struts, in terms of suspension travel. I also don’t think we have any struts that we would call Heavy Duty. Perhaps Old Man Emu, but everyone seems happy with their KYB’s, myself included.

I said bigger I meant like longer just something other then spacers lol 

[MTGunner]

My Pathfinder bottoms out terrible in the rear. My thought, currently, is to get longer, heavier springs, perhaps LandRover. Then buy a good set of quality rear shocks that are a bit longer and heavier duty. BTW, this has nothing to do with the front suspension. The front suspension has new struts, links, and all new last spring. But, I will do a 2” spacer lift on the new struts that I installed last spring. The issue has to do with the rear suspension bottoming out. I will remove the spacers upon doing the front lift. 

Someone posted the Land Rover springs and front lift spacer. Where to buy these components. MTG

Edited December 3, 2019 by MTGunner

[colinnwn]

I said bigger I meant like longer just something other then spacers lol 

No one I've seen has found a longer strut either. They are all about the same length. You just put a stiffer spring in which doesn't compress as much, or you do the spacer, or a SFD.

I wouldn't want a longer strut anyway because then you run into the same problems of too big spacers or SFDs in that your suspension can extend the driveline further than it was designed to go.

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[Strato_54]

3 hours ago, colinnwn said:

No one I've seen has found a longer strut either. They are all about the same length. You just put a stiffer spring in which doesn't compress as much, or you do the spacer, or a SFD.

I wouldn't want a longer strut anyway because then you run into the same problems of too big spacers or SFDs in that your suspension can extend the driveline further than it was designed to go.

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i thought they were just different struts all together huh. alright well the more ya know. and yeah youre right that would screw up something either way.

[Ole_Rosie_R50]

if your rear springs are shot, your whole suspension could be shot. when i got my lift installed, my front struts and rear shocks were shot. i replaced the front with KYB struts and Bilstein shocks in the rear

[MTGunner]

Do not believe entire rear suspension is shot. I am the second owner and original owners used Pathfinder for everyday use. Was always serviced at Nissan dealer, not that that is a good thing. 

I believe it was not used off road or to tow. Seems the shocks are original. It bottoms too easily with little load.

I really do not want to do a Lift. But, if new shocks will help I will start there. I am attempting to find  a shock a little bit longer and heavier duty. 

Edited December 8, 2019 by MTGunner

[totriz]

1 hour ago, MTGunner said:

Do not believe entire rear suspension is shot. I am the second owner and original owners used Pathfinder for everyday use. Was always serviced at Nissan dealer, not that that is a good thing. 

I believe it was not used off road or to tow. Seems the shocks are original. It bottoms too easily with little load.

I really do not want to do a Lift. But, if new shocks will help I will start there. I am attempting to find  a shock a little bit longer and heavier duty. 

 

my guess is that the stock rear springs are far too soft for the pathfinder even when new.

I bought the moog springs (advertised as oem replacement) thinking the original springs were sagging on my 2003,  and it was the same thing, bottomed out whenever there was 4 people + luggage in the car.

I have also noticed that almost every r50 I see on the road sags a little or a lot on the rear

 

in the end I bought the ARB 2922 Old Man Emu Coil Spring, and KYB gas a just shocks, and my pathfinder rides a lot better, no more bottoming out and no noticeable change in ride comfort.

 

just changing shocks won't fix your problem, the job of the shock is not to carry the load of the car, using spacers will only level the car when loaded, but the spring will still bottom out.