Slartibartfast Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 What has four cylinders but a crank build for eight? And a hardtop that lifts off? And a factory-option snow plow lifted by the power steering pump? And got its badges painted over when somebody camo'd it? It's an almost-running 4x4 1963 International Harvester Scout 80. My dad traded a barn-find Triumph Herald for it. We plan to plow snow with it primarily, but it's too cool to not drive around in the summer, once we get it patched up. The body has a few dents and some cancer in the usual places, but nothing we can't put right, and much less than other Scouts of its vintage. It even came with good 31" tires. The PO said it ran and drove until the fan tore the radiator a few new outlets. I pulled the rad out the other day, and I have to say, it's amazing how much room there is under the hood. This rig looks like it should be fun to work on. Oddly enough, some of the later models were offered with a Nissan SD33 diesel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gv280z Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Dude! Effing recovery rig! "Hey, uhh..Dad? Can you bring the Scout please? I'm stuck....yea, out in the back 40....uh huh..." That's cool man. I'd love to play around in an International Scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Oh man I am jealous!! I have always wanted a Scout! (Preferably with the sd33 so I could turbo it) but any scout would be awesome! And that one does look very clean. Awesome find man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 No fair# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 WTH? That thing is AWESOME!! Did you really find that great of a deal? Add me to the list of *jealousy*. Keep us updated on this project .. PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Recognized that in the first photo... Congrats, that is something most people would like to have. Show it the love it deserves! B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Thanks guys, and yes, we did get that great of a deal on it! Funny story, it was going to be a straight purchase until the guy and his friends showed up to deliver the truck and saw the Herald. We showed them what it needed, and the parts we had, and jokingly suggested a trade... next thing you know we're loading it up!It will need a fair bit of work, so, hell, let's call this a build thread.Here's what's left of the rad:New aluminum ones go for crazy money so we're going to try and find a used one, or if that fails, see if we can find a guy to re-core this one. It'll need a few patch panels before we repaint it. I'm leaning towards matte orange, and my dad's leaning towards matte yellow, but either way the roof will stay black. That exhaust is... interesting. Here's a close up on the dealer sticker under the hood: A previous owner sprayed the dash metallic green, which looks pretty good until you see the runs and the masking tape he never got around to removing. The floors are done in diamond plate over the original metal. I'm normally not a big fan of diamond plate, but on this rig, I think it fits. I'll post updates we get something done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Nice find. Like the green on the dash. Hate the diamond plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92Path_68CJ Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Poor thing. Looks nice. I like Scouts but they're too big for my trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terranovation Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I like how there's a space under the bonnet for coolant container lol. Police officer "Uh, what's that doing there?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 God dang it, that's just what I want. I have a friend who has a scout II with a Nissan Diesel- jealous of that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I think you'll find it doesn't hold 80mph and will get you killed. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 IIRC the PO said it wouldn't go much over 50, so yeah, I wouldn't drive it in California! I crawled around in it some more today and found a bag of shop receipts and titles that the previous owner once removed (the guy the PO bought it from) left under the seat. Turns out it got a front axle rebuild (bearings and seals) and a brake job in 2010. A month later, the same shop put aftermarket wiper motors, a blower motor, and spark plugs in it. The two receipts add to just over $2400. We're happy to see that it's been serviced recently, and happier still that we didn't have to pay for the work! I'm not impressed with how the mechanic wired the wiper motors, but maybe, having seen the rest of the vehicle's wiring, he lowered his standards to match. It's been converted to negative ground, cheaply, so the negative cable is red and the positive cable is black. It was also converted to a modern alternator, though they couldn't be bothered to find a reasonably thick charge wire or remove the factory voltage regulator. Whoever wired the headlights, taillights, and heater fan only had green and black wire at their disposal, and used them interchangeably. The starter wires are scabbed and partially exposed, which is disconcerting considering that they're downhill from the carburetor. (Did I mention that the carb leaks?) The blower motor and the aftermarket 12v outlet (stock one is dead) are the only things with fuses. To my surprise, the off-road lights, tail lights, and one marker light still work, and turning them on did not start any fires! I'm leaning towards tearing out what's left of the wiring and starting over. The headlights don't currently work and I'm having a hard time getting excited about troubleshooting the mass of green wires and crimp connectors under the dash. I'd also like to get a fuse block in there somewhere. Of course I'm getting ahead of myself here... the radiator will come first. We're hoping to get that in later this week. We need to make sure it runs before we start messing with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think you'll find it doesn't hold 80mph and will get you killed. B Classic cars are somewhat of an exception. A nice LS-X will fix that speed issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 And checks of the hydraulics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Manual brakes? I don't see a master cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 It has a master cylinder, it's just back behind the heater box in the picture. The clutch master, oddly enough, is a British Girling cylinder. The pedals feel alright, and the brakes were done in 2010, so hopefully they're still good. The plow hydro system looks decent overall, but the reservoir is almost empty, so that's probably leaking somewhere. A nice LS-X will fix that speed issue Until the Dana 27 scatters its guts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 It has a master cylinder, it's just back behind the heater box in the picture. The clutch master, oddly enough, is a British Girling cylinder. The pedals feel alright, and the brakes were done in 2010, so hopefully they're still good. The plow hydro system looks decent overall, but the reservoir is almost empty, so that's probably leaking somewhere. Until the Dana 27 scatters its guts! Sounds like a fascinating system to me. And yes but the Roadkill-esque factor would make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF600 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 If you are bored and want an engine change look at a 4bt or 6bt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Those 4BTs sound like beasts, but I imagine they'd require swapping out the entire drivetrain.Also... the little four-pot 153 is a runner! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gv280z Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Your Dad is cool man, I like him. Are you guys Dutch or Swedish? You seem to have a 1st or 2nd generation thing going on. I'm glad you guys are close..that's cool. Great video man. I'm actually Dutch / Irish myself...but 100% Texan, By God. Heh, lol...that's funny. Edited June 24, 2014 by gv280z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 LOL thanks. You're right on the first generation, at least on my dad's side, except that his dad was born in England. We've done a little more to the Scout since we got her running. The Permatex we used on the carb didn't hold, so we cleaned it off and re-sealed it with some kind of reddish gunk (don't remember the label). Then the carb overflowed. We took it apart, put it back together, and it's worked fine since; I suspect some of the gunk stuck the float down, taking it apart freed it up, and the gas prevented it from sticking again. It made for some interesting swearing in the dark. We do have a rebuilt carb on its way, but at least for the moment, this one seems to be working. The last time we ran it, the exhaust manifold got really hot, way hotter than it should, and what we read online suggested a timing issue. My dad advanced the timing (not sure of exact timing, we don't have a light) and the exhaust temps have come down a lot. He also cleaned up the valve cover and sealed it back up, so it isn't burning up oil on the manifold (or not as much, anyway). The engine actually runs pretty well, but it's got a bit of a miss that we need to track down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 In the video your dad mentioned that he hadn't even pulled the plugs, that surprised me a bit. Check/replace the plugs, wires, cap and rotor before anything else miss related. With the carb, I was thinking that rather than bend that lip back any more and risk breaking it, you could just carefully file the top edge of the cover to match the curve of the sealing surface and then mount it with thick gasket material rather than goo. Always nice to have a backup, and that should be an easy way to save it... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Just pulled the plugs. All four were nuts on at .035" and all four were jet black. Think she's running a little rich! No sense tuning the mix until we've swapped the carb, though. And yeah, I'll take a file to the old carb and see if I can get it flat enough to seal. It's sort of ridged along the mating surface, but that shouldn't be too hard to get around, and spares are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 We got a little more work done on this thing. I found a new use for a railroad spike as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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