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  1. 1. Which one would you choose?

    • 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche
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    • 2007 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab
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    • 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe
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    • 2007 Nissan Armada
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Avalanches are useful! The truck I was talking about earlier...

 

When you need to haul tires, parts, and a 1-piece exhaust system from a 700WHP Eagle Talon, just take out the rear window!

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Sequoias aren't that reliable either... a lot of common brake, ball joint, and HVAC control problems. However they are veeerry comfortable, my uncle's is an '05 SR5 Limited and I do enjoy going on road trips in it. However the list of problems with it in 60K miles is astounding. Maybe it was a Friday car? The first generation Tundras were the biggest joke of a "full size" truck on the market. They fail hard in every way. Weenie ass C-channel frame that's smaller than a Pathfinder's (thinner material and not boxed anywhere), terrible payload ratings, weak motor, serious brake issues due to them being undersized, seriously weak upper and lower control arm construction, etc. Compare it to any of the Domestic trucks, part for part, and it's a total joke. It was the same story when Toyota tried to enter the full size market in the early 90s with the T-100. :thumbsdown:

 

My best friend's parents bought a 2002 Avalanche brand new for a pilot vehicle, it has 240,000 miles on it now and hasn't had any real problems so to speak of. It's really run down now due to neglect/low maintenance and needs some front end work, but overall it's a pretty damn reliable truck. It drives really smooth and nice with plenty of power. Interior quality is no worse at all than the new line of Toyota trucks but the drive train in it is rock solid. They may look a little goofy but they're a nice truck. Their other pilot truck, an '01 Dodge Ram 5.9L Cummins is nearing 450K miles, but because it's a Dodge automatic it's been replaced twice, and I just put a new AC pump on it about a month ago. Those are the only problems ever had with it.

 

I would go out and drive every one of the rigs you're interested in and see which one you like best. Then weigh the pros/cons of each rig and decide which one fits your need the best and will be the one you'll really enjoy for as long as you own it.

 

You must not have realized I was talking about the current generation of the sequpia and the Tundra. The old seqouia cant even be compared to the new sequoia. The newer one is much larger and has the 5.7 in it. It has a towing capacity of 10000 lbs. Also, if you have the money you can get the platinum that has the self leveling function. This is somehting neither the avalanche nor the armada offer. DO your research. Since the topic of this post was "towing vehicle" it se2ms to me a vehicle with a 10000 pound payload is somehting to be mentioned. Lastly, you sound like you are just completely against toyota, which is fine but you need to realize that they are known to be and have proven to be some of the most reliable cars on the road. Just because you dont have the coin to buy one dosent mean you have to criticize them.

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Why no Titan on the list? It can probably tow more that the Armada.

I bought my pathy in north Houston and it came home on my 20' trailer pulled by my titan.

My titan has the tow package so it has a trans temp gage and 3.33 gears. Pulling the pathy on interstate it averaged 12 mpg. I here pulling large campers they get around 8 mpg. My non towing mileage on the highway is a solid 18 mpg, in town it's as good as my pathy.

I love my titan but will not buy another one because of the local dealer, and nissan themselves don't really give a @!*% about the customer either.

Before I had 20k on it I had replaced the intake, exhaust, and tuned the computer. The problems I've had were;

Brakes warping, fixed that with frozen rotors. Dealer wouldn't do anything.

Radiator cracked at 40k, had to cover it with extended warranty.

Front end makes too much rattling noises, dealer couldn't find the problem but promised me nothing would fall off. That made me feel better!

It has towed everything I hooked to it but the rear springs are softer than my old chevy I had. Now since I put dropped shackles on the back a heavy trailer will sit it on the axle stops if the load is not balanced, but thats my fault.

It does haul ass too! never lost a race to another pickup yet.

An armada is almost the same as a titan but has rear independant suspention.

James

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You must not have realized I was talking about the current generation of the sequpia and the Tundra. The old seqouia cant even be compared to the new sequoia. The newer one is much larger and has the 5.7 in it. It has a towing capacity of 10000 lbs. Also, if you have the money you can get the platinum that has the self leveling function. This is somehting neither the avalanche nor the armada offer. DO your research. Since the topic of this post was "towing vehicle" it se2ms to me a vehicle with a 10000 pound payload is somehting to be mentioned. Lastly, you sound like you are just completely against toyota, which is fine but you need to realize that they are known to be and have proven to be some of the most reliable cars on the road. Just because you dont have the coin to buy one dosent mean you have to criticize them.

 

I do my research, which is precisely why I dislike Toyotas from 1992+. I don't buy in to the ad hype and propaganda surrounding Toyota vehicles and their famous "reliability." Ever heard of the millions of complaints about Corollas blowing their motors at less than 50,000 miles? Look it up. I also feel bad for people owning anything with the 3VZ-E engine due to their notorious repeated head gasket failures. Toyotas are no different than American vehicles, people just buy in to the hype waaaaaayy too much and it's pretty amusing. Nowadays Fords easily surpass Toyotas in quality.

 

The new Tundra has the capability to haul a pretty damned good amount, but you do know that since 2004 the F150 has been able to tow 12,000lbs right?

 

I'm not kidding about this either, I was able to easily dismantle quite a few interior trim pieces on a brand new Sequoia Limited while they were on display at the Clark County fair. The quality of the interior was laughable to say the least, the cheesy plastic wood pieces for the window controls popped off the door with very little effort and so did the trim around the gauges. Everything felt weak cheap. It was pathetic, I literally felt like I was sitting in my grandparent's '00 Oldsmobile Bravada. It was that bad.

 

Even if I had the money for one, I still wouldn't own a new Toyota. I would really enjoy owning a Supra/Celica GT, first-gen pickup with real axles, and an original Landcruiser. Those are the real Toyotas, not the glorified POSes they're selling now.

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I do my research, which is precisely why I dislike Toyotas from 1992+. I don't buy in to the ad hype and propaganda surrounding Toyota vehicles and their famous "reliability." Ever heard of the millions of complaints about Corollas blowing their motors at less than 50,000 miles? Look it up. I also feel bad for people owning anything with the 3VZ-E engine due to their notorious repeated head gasket failures. Toyotas are no different than American vehicles, people just buy in to the hype waaaaaayy too much and it's pretty amusing. Nowadays Fords easily surpass Toyotas in quality.

 

The new Tundra has the capability to haul a pretty damned good amount, but you do know that since 2004 the F150 has been able to tow 12,000lbs right?

 

I'm not kidding about this either, I was able to easily dismantle quite a few interior trim pieces on a brand new Sequoia Limited while they were on display at the Clark County fair. The quality of the interior was laughable to say the least, the cheesy plastic wood pieces for the window controls popped off the door with very little effort and so did the trim around the gauges. Everything felt weak cheap. It was pathetic, I literally felt like I was sitting in my grandparent's '00 Oldsmobile Bravada. It was that bad.

 

Even if I had the money for one, I still wouldn't own a new Toyota. I would really enjoy owning a Supra/Celica GT, first-gen pickup with real axles, and an original Landcruiser. Those are the real Toyotas, not the glorified POSes they're selling now.

 

 

 

Cheap huh? In no way is the interior on a toyota cheaper than a ford or a chevy. You mention a corolla? No @!*% the corolla are not that reliabe, however what about the Camry? Those arent reliable? Anyways we were discussing trucks not small cars. Perhaps if you want to talk small cars you need to look into the ford escorts problems or the mustang? Lastly, i would love to see an f150 pull 12000 lbs. You keep living your life through all of your friends. "my buddy has a dodge... my friends parents have an avalance." How pathetic. I know my cars because ive owned multiple vehicles myself not because my friends parents let me ride in theirs.

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Cheap huh? In no way is the interior on a toyota cheaper than a ford or a chevy. You mention a corolla? No @!*% the corolla are not that reliabe, however what about the Camry? Those arent reliable? Anyways we were discussing trucks not small cars. Perhaps if you want to talk small cars you need to look into the ford escorts problems or the mustang? Lastly, i would love to see an f150 pull 12000 lbs. You keep living your life through all of your friends. "my buddy has a dodge... my friends parents have an avalance." How pathetic. I know my cars because ive owned multiple vehicles myself not because my friends parents let me ride in theirs.

 

Whoa, no need to get all worked up about it and start a pissing match. Do you say that the interior is in no way cheaper than a Ford or Chevy because "it's a Toyota?" The quality gap closed a long time ago.

Oh, and didn't you get the memo? Camrys are taking off left and right... on their own!!! :D

 

I only mention those rigs because I'm around them every single day for the most part, drive them fairly often, and have been for years so I've got a very good idea of what they're like. I am also the one that works on them. Replacing the transmission in the Ram is insanely easy compared to a Pathfinder, BTW. :lol: And the Ram drives like ass, but it's had more miles put on it in a short amount of time than most automobiles would ever dream of. You really cannot beat a 6BT for reliability.

 

As far as towing 12K, they'll do it. WE (my mother, her boyfriend, myself, and my step brother) tow a gross weight 10,100lb RV trailer every year up to Elk camp in an '06 F150 XLT 5.4L with 47,000 miles on it. Last year when we went to the other side of Mt. St. Helens for the Pumas Plains hunt I had to drive the entire way back home, a 2.5 hour trip towing the trailer and gear. My mom's boyfriend was way too tired and my mom was scared to death even thinking about driving. The truck had the power but struggled a good bit going up long steep grades that required frequent kicking down, but overall I felt fairly comfortable towing all of that weight. Trailer brakes helped immensely and the tow/haul mode held gears good enough, plus the brakes on the truck it's self are damned good. However one thing I did not like was the rear end seemed a little sketchy in strong cross winds, almost like it wanted to step out a bit when the wind caught the trailer.

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Hey man. Im so happy that your mommys boyfriend let you drive the truck for 300 miles, but I have experience towing all over the country. No truck, other than titan, can compare as far a reliability goes to a tundra or sequoia. I mean just read your own post. " Replaced transmission" "all the work on them" your words speak for me. Lastly, the old gas pedal recall joke. Thats toyotas biggest recall in history. It was a huge mistake but every automobile company has had their fare share of mistakes. Remember when fords were catching fire in peoples driveways, or rolling over due to faulty tires. O wait... you werent even born yet. Im ending this right now. I dont have time to argue with children all day.... so on an ending note the ford is rated at 8000lbs.... checkmate.

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Hey man. Im so happy that your mommys boyfriend let you drive the truck for 300 miles, but I have experience towing all over the country. No truck, other than titan, can compare as far a reliability goes to a tundra or sequoia. I mean just read your own post. " Replaced transmission" "all the work on them" your words speak for me. Lastly, the old gas pedal recall joke. Thats toyotas biggest recall in history. It was a huge mistake but every automobile company has had their fare share of mistakes. Remember when fords were catching fire in peoples driveways, or rolling over due to faulty tires. O wait... you werent even born yet. Im ending this right now. I dont have time to argue with children all day.... so on an ending note the ford is rated at 8000lbs.... checkmate.

 

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Somebuddys pantys are in a bind arent they, the starter of this did not ask about toyotas, he said he had no plans of towing a nissan with a toyota, so whats the points of bringing a toyota up, if you havent notice by chance, toyotas tow rating for there tundra was complete BS,they changed max towing capicty between 400-1100 pounds depending on the model of the truck.

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Somebuddys pantys are in a bind arent they, the starter of this did not ask about toyotas, he said he had no plans of towing a nissan with a toyota, so whats the points of bringing a toyota up, if you havent notice by chance, toyotas tow rating for there tundra was complete BS,they changed max towing capicty between 400-1100 pounds depending on the model of the truck.

Some S10's are rated to tow only 2000 lbs. Mine on the other hand is rated to tow 5800 lbs. Not that unusual to differ between models :tongue:

 

We have some new 2500 Dodge Rams at work and I'm not to fond of the ride. The SFA leaves a lot to be desired, but for a work truck they have their place. We also have some 3/4 ton Chevys which ride a lot better. Some have had their problems and some are over 300,000km with just regular maintenance. Luck of the draw I suppose.

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Some S10's are rated to tow only 2000 lbs. Mine on the other hand is rated to tow 5800 lbs. Not that unusual to differ between models :tongue:

 

Yep, not uncommon at all, 2 wheel drives with the bigger engine and automatic are usally rated to tow more then there 4 wheel drive brothers. But, what I was saying is they lowered all of there tow ratings across the board on there tundra's, not just on a few.

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Out of the four options you listed in the poll, I'd go with the Silverado/Sierra 2500HD, only because I know five people who have them (ranging from '04-'09) and swear by them, my uncle being one of those people. He's put over 150,000 km on his '05 since buying it in early '07, and raves about it. He's used it to tow his fifth wheel and his snowmobile/ATV trailer.

 

Just me two cents. :my2cents:

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