Soccerstudd5 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Took the pathy out for her first offroad run on Thursday and about half-way through, I noticed the steering starting to suck real bad. My buddy that was in front of me said that my tires were both angled in and fighting each other. Had someone look at it and they said the idler arm was bent. So, took the one off my parts car, (great to have one of those) and adjusted the tie rods to align the tires within .25". Took her out again yesterday and did fine for less than an hour and then back to the same old crap! I got the pathy and the parts car for $500. It's an 87 and I'm pretty sure the whole front end is close to being wore out. It's got a TM lift and before I got it, it had been sitting for 6 years. Found me two good donor vehicles for a SAS that run for $400 for both so I could maybe even part it out and make my money back. Even got a friend to split the cost with me for a SAS for his yota. In the long run, would I be ahead to just go ahead and SAS if that was my plan to do eventually anyways, or figure out what's wrong with the IFS and get it fixed? Thanks for the help and opinions everyone. Greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 If your planning on SAS anyway, why wait. If you can go without the truck for the time it takes to do the conversion and have the parts ready, I wouldnt bother with the IFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 me thinks it's your tie rod ends that are fubar. i don't think you could bend the IA if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'd say go for the SAS right now.....if you have what it takes, and the stuff to do it, go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerstudd5 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'll post some pics up this afternoon. The IA DID bend the first time, new one is on and pretty sure it's bent a little, but not as much. It's weird though, when I was climbing rocks and hills when it first started happening, my buddies were telling me the tires were fighting each other and toeing in, but when I'd get to the top and stop to look at it, they would be fine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 If you got the parts and time at your disposal and don't need the truck you might as well get crackin at it. If your in need of the truck currently, I'd start with making sur ethe TREs are good and maby get an actual allignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerstudd5 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Well, it is just a trail rig and as I'm going back to school in a month, I won't have a lot of time to wheel, but know someone who could do/help with the SAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'll post some pics up this afternoon. The IA DID bend the first time, new one is on and pretty sure it's bent a little, but not as much. It's weird though, when I was climbing rocks and hills when it first started happening, my buddies were telling me the tires were fighting each other and toeing in, but when I'd get to the top and stop to look at it, they would be fine.... most likely a shot CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadm4x4 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 SAS it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatutoryApe Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 hah i decided to SAS cuz i bent a tie rod a week ago. then i went to the local pick n pull on monday to get a replacement when i saw the a wagoneer with the D44 i needed. it was like fate or something. hahaha. i'm not looking back now. i'm goin with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morningwould Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 let me know when you pull the trail master kit out, and what you might want for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerstudd5 Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 let me know when you pull the trail master kit out, and what you might want for it. Will do, just so you know, I won't have any instructions or anything like that, but I'm sure it's all pretty self explanatory. I could probably take pictures of where the parts came off of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Typical IFS "Wink". Usualy caused by a worn out center link, it will pivot up on the idler and pitman arms and cause the toe in while under power in 4wd. If you have the parts for SAS, and plan to do one, just go ahead with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 me thinks it's your tie rod ends that are fubar. i don't think you could bend the IA if you tried. You most definitely can. The shaft bends. I've seen it happen to trucks not running a brace. I'm with GG, though. CL problem. With those big tires, you'll continue to kill the CL in short order if you keep it stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 If a SAS is out of the question for now and a long while, then get an upgraded/modified CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 see, me thinks you should invest in a CL, then a week later go and SAS it, and sell the centerlink for $10 on www.oldslowreliable.com (don't click, for all i know it could be something VERY bad!) Hehe, really, if your planning on SAS'ing it, i wouldn't invest in a CL unless your trying to help those of use who are too cheap to buy one out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Nissan IFS parts are so damn expensive. I'm willing to bet that my steering is going to implode again after this years adventure weekend. The next CL I get will be a hoohaa one. I should let you know that once you start replacing steering parts that other ones will quickly go bad. At least this was my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerstudd5 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 Well, looks like a SAS... wanting to do coils instead of leafs, maybe even coilovers like this rig. http://www.4wdandsportutility.com/tech/071...sion/index.html If I'm getting a whole Wagoneer, what parts am I going to have to start acquiring? I know I'm going to have to set up my own steering, shock/coilover mounts, and control arms. I'm going to be talking to a local 4x4 guy here in town and seeing what he can help with and how much he's going to charge, but just wanted to get an idea now. TIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) i had the same problem with king, and yes, it was my tre's. i have had no issues since with his steering since i changed all 4 tre's and got a fresh alignment. go SaS if you can afford it, have another DD you can use, and it's cost effective for you. i'm going to sas king this winter Edited July 28, 2009 by Slick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 i'm going to sas king this winter You know, if you go through with that.....you are gonna have about a bajillion michigander NPORA guys dropping our trucks off so we can just sit on our lazy butts! lawl What exactly was WRONG with your TRE's? How did you stop it from happening again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Upgraded Centerlink They solve the twisting problems that stock CL's have, which is a main cause of failed TRE's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 i had the same problem with king, and yes, it was my tre's. i have had no issues since with his steering since i changed all 4 tre's and got a fresh alignment. go SaS if you can afford it, have another DD you can use, and it's cost effective for you. i'm going to sas king this winter Can I call dibs on your TM kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmer Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 What's the best place to get a decent C/L? Anyone know anywhere in southern BC? How much are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 What's the best place to get a decent C/L? Anyone know anywhere in southern BC? How much are they? for an upgraded one, check out www.grassroots4x4.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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