fleurys Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) I'm happy to present to you the most easy and affordable way to level or lift your R50. Basically for years, there has been only two solutions : lift with AC springs for a 2" lift or Krypton Fab for 4". Krypton Fabrication is a great company and if you are looking for a 4" lift kit, they have a great product that will work for you. My hat to you guys ! On the other hand, AC springs, although of good quality, are costly. They also bring a new problem of their own called top-out. This is when the strut reaches it's maximum extension by making a loud noise. This is caused because the lift is reach by putting stiffer coils. By doing so, the unibody of the R50 sits higher on it's springs...but is also mean that the struts are almost at maximum extension....not good... (I know for a fact since I had , myself, to install limiting straps to prevent this problem). 4x4design.com now offers you a new low cost alternative for a 2" and lower lift. HDPE spacers have been around for many years and have been proven to work. Daystar is a good example that has been making spacers with aluminium , then changed to 'durathane'. This is their own recipe of polyurethane. Spacers are great also because you keep you plush ride since you do not have to change expensive coils with stiffer ones !. Top-out is not a problem since you do not over-extent your struts. For a complete comparison of 3 different spacers kit (with pictures), check out on the web site : http://4x4design.com/r50-lift-kit.php . From there you will SEE what different spacers give how much lift. From there, you will be able to order the right lift for you and your activities. It can go from a simple rear spacers only for towing or full front and rear lift. You can also use them to level your truck on the front. Come see for yourselves ! http://4x4design.com/r50-lift-kit.php Before lift: After 2" all around Steve. Edited July 9, 2014 by fleurys 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I have the 1" HDPEs of yours up front to level my OME- great work, and thanks for working with me on the shipping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theexbrit Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I have the AC lift plus your 1" HDPE spacers on the front. As Karman says, they are great! I've already given them a beating on 2 trips & no problem whatsoever! I had the HDPE spacers on when I bent my strut but the spacers weren't affected at all by what was a very nasty blow to the passenger side front wheel assembly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordymahn Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm happy to present to you the most easy and affordable way to level or lift your R50. Basically for years, there has been only two solutions : lift with AC springs for a 2" lift or Krypton Fab for 4". Krypton Fabrication is a great company and if you are looking for a 4" lift kit, they have a great product that will work for you. My hat to you guys ! On the other hand, AC springs, although of good quality, are costly. They also bring a new problem of their own called top-out. This is when the strut reaches it's maximum extension by making a loud noise. This is caused because the lift is reach by putting stiffer coils. By doing so, the unibody of the R50 sits higher on it's springs...but is also mean that the struts are almost at maximum extension....not good... (I know for a fact since I had , myself, to install limiting straps to prevent this problem). 4x4design.com now offers you a new low cost alternative for a 2" and lower lift. HDPE spacers have been around for many years and have been proven to work. Daystar is a good example that has been making spacers with aluminium , then changed to 'durathane'. This is their own recipe of polyurethane. Spacers are great also because you keep you plush ride since you do not have to change expensive coils with stiffer ones !. Top-out is not a problem since you do not over-extent your struts. For a complete comparison of 3 different spacers kit (with pictures), check out on the web site : http://4x4design.com/r50-lift-kit.php . From there you will SEE what different spacers give how much lift. From there, you will be able to order the right lift for you and your activities. It can go from a simple rear spacers only for towing or full front and rear lift. You can also use them to level your truck on the front. Also, as a promotion, get 10% off your purchase when you buy a kit (front and rear spacers) ! Come see for yourselves ! http://4x4design.com/r50-lift-kit.php Before lift: After 2" all around Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyeager Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Does this mean you have a 3" suspension lift in the front? Everything cool with your camber, axle boots, bump steer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 How and where do you install these components? Do you have any close-up photos of them installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 front spacers (2 - 1 inch threaded) rear spacers (between the coil seat and the coil) view from inside the engine bay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 This has been the definitive way to lift Subaru's for at least a decade. What took y'all so long?? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colosso90 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 i did some like this but on iron pipe and some welding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colosso90 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 i have to do camber correction yet did you have problems with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 How do the strut spacers prevent the strut assembly from drooping too far and allowing the CV axles from exceeding their operating angle when the front wheels are off the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 How do the strut spacers prevent the strut assembly from drooping too far and allowing the CV axles from exceeding their operating angle when the front wheels are off the ground? My spacers do not prevent this kind of thing....neither does the ac springs or any other way of lifting this truck. My lift gives the same height as the AC springs but at a very different cost. This kind of lift (height) has been tested by me and by many others.. 2.5" lift is not enough to make the half shaft fall by itself.. Actually I believe the snap ring on the half shaft is there exactly for that reason... I think binding in the joint would occur before the half shaft coming out... I have tested my wheels of the ground on many occasion with a lift higher than this ( I run AC springs plus 1" spacers) and I can assure you it is fine... If you are too concerned, you can opt for a lesser lift like 1.5 or even just 1". Regards. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAustinHenry Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Ordering my 2" kit next month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Pathfinder Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Very Nice looking spacers! So am I just missing it on your website or what but I cant see the pricing for the "kit", just the pricing for what the front costs and the rear costs?? Is there a "kit" price, or is it just the individual (front & back) prices added together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Since you can make you own kit mixing the height that you need, you add the front and back. For a limited time get 10% off. S. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterThanAJeep Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 As soon as I can afford it this will be the first thing I order for my 03 SE 4x4! 2" front and rear is what I'm hoping for, but just wondering if I should upgrade coils at the same time? Any feedback would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 As soon as I can afford it this will be the first thing I order for my 03 SE 4x4! 2" front and rear is what I'm hoping for, but just wondering if I should upgrade coils at the same time? Any feedback would be great! I don't advise upgrading coils to AC and having spacers... you will go over the limit of your half shaft maximum angle... it's one or the other.... or even ac coils + 1" spacer. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushnut Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'd recommend the IronMan springs if you have to replace your stock springs. they will only lift the front 35mm so with spacers you can lift to about 2" and not change CV angles out of spec. the rear will lift close to 2" even without spacers. more importantly it will allow higher payload without sagging, while maintaining a great ride quality. Remember to replace rear shocks with longer than stock if lifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikfc3s Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Im actually looking on your website now to order the 2" lift kit but i cant find where i pay. Can you please assist me on this. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Just fill in the contact us page with your infos and order. Tks Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Pathfinder Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Fleurys with these front the 2 inch spacer provides 2.5 inches of lift, do you make a 2.5 inch spacer for the front that would provide 3 inches of lift? Or would this be to much stress on the cv's? Because I see people using the AC lift with your 1 inch spacers which I'm assuming would be 3 total inches of front lift. Can these be done? Thanks!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Yes simply combine a 1" and a 1.5" that i already sell. I would not know though if this creates to much angle on the cv... Sorry we did not try this combination. Contact me by pm if you want to go this way, and i'll give you a price for this combination. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Pathfinder Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I would be interested in this combo for 3 inches in front and 2.5 inches in the back to level it out. I'm just worried that May to much angle. Anyone have any input in this that may have the 2 inch AC with 1 inch spacer combo?? Any issues you see may occur? I plan on replacing my stock coils with new ones but just oem coils not lift coils, just so they're new and not saggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOKEYR50 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I have a 2inch lift with a 35mm spacer from Snake Racing (I'm in Australia). This adds to about a 3.5" lift once you take into account the extra weight from bullbar/lightbars/1000cca battery etc......and I get some issues with binding. I would say you'd be pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Pathfinder Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 So smokey even with all that weight an probably losing .5 inches from sag bringing you to 3 inches you say you still are having issues huh? Damn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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