jproy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) I have been looking around and found some info on the LSD for the Pathfinder. I cant confirm if my truck has one or not. Anybody know? From looking at the service manual there is a LSD and an open face listed. Anyway, the open face listed appears to have a beakaway torque of only 65-80 ft/lb. Weak! Whats the point? Has anyone else put an aftermarket LSD in the rear of the 2000 LE Pathfinder? I saw the LSD on the 4X4parts.com site but has anyone used it and really likes it. Anyone know what the breakaway torque is for it or what is available. I have a call into one of there techs now. The threads I found here were speculative and inconclusive. Thanks, Jim Are there any tech-ies here who might know what I could do if I tore down the OEM diff, if I have the LSD, to increase the breakaway torque? Edited December 9, 2008 by jproy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You can install more clutch discs to increase the breakaway torque if you have LSD. If you're open, I wouldn't waste your money, (if you're going to wheel it) and just go with a locker. IN order to test (if you don't have the orange sticker on the rear diff) jack up the rear end, spin one tire. If the other spins the same way, it's got LSD. If it doesn't spin, or goes the opposite way, it's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 LSD should have a square orange sticker on the dif that says LSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jproy Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 On the diff itself or on the pumpkin/diff housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexrex20 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 exterior, on the housing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNBullrid Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) You can install more clutch discs to increase the breakaway torque if you have LSD. If you're open, I wouldn't waste your money, (if you're going to wheel it) and just go with a locker. has anyone actually done this and installed more discs into the lsd? how many and where could you safetly install them so they would not grind off the first corner you take. I am very interested in this method. i thought about it but didnt think it was possible. Edited December 16, 2008 by CDNBullrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yes, it's been done. A friend of mine had discs added to the LSD on his Xterra. Works almost like a full spool now. I, unfortunately, don't have the specs on the procedure, but it was posted here a while back. Search for Rebuilding LSD or something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 So my '98 has the open differential but I find it pretty useless seeing as how I want to make my rig more offroad capable. That being said, what's a better way to go, LSD swap or locker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Locker for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Locker for sure. I sound like a total newbgoon but may I ask why? To that end, should I get a front one too, or a front LSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 For the cost and effort, off road, the locker will FAR surpass any stock LSD unit. On the road, turn it off (ARB is your only option for your truck, I believe) and it'll drive just like it does today. Same goes for the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexrex20 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) for us poor folk, would you recommend (even the slightest bit) swapping in a LSD 3rd member from a junkyard Pathy? if i can get a 3rd member for dirt cheap, is it worth the labor to add some clutches and swap it in? ARB is the only option for the H233B in the R50, and at $950 for just the locker, it ain't cheap. you still need to have an air supply, and then pay for labor, if you're not willing to tackle it yourself. Edited December 16, 2008 by alexrex20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Well, yeah, it would be beneficial to swap in a beefed up LSD unit over an open diff....for sure. Labour is a tradeoff, really. Re-and-Re a stock LSD (beefed up or not) or install the ARB, you're looking at roughly the same amount of labour. Depending on how much you could beef up the stock LSD for, it could prove cost effective over the ARB locker. You wouldn't get the same performance, but it'd be decent. To swap in a stock R50 LSD in place of your open diff, IMO, is not worth it. The stock lsd in the the R50 is pretty weak, approx half the breakaway force of the WD21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) I found these two items so far but that's it. Not sure what to think... Any thoughts? Rear LSD: https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_in...products_id=290 Front LSD: https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_in...products_id=294 A locker is still a better option? I really need to learn more about this sh*t... Edited December 16, 2008 by tekazgtr1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 A locker is far better than both those options. If I'm not mistaken, they're just selling Nissan LSD units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 A locker is far better than both those options. If I'm not mistaken, they're just selling Nissan LSD units. Well isn't that some bunk nasty... So then a Detroit Locker would be reasonably better choice? I don't think I want to spend money on an air locker. That's a bit much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 No option for a detroit locker in your truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxman0324 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 No option for a detroit locker in your truck. I thought Max had a Lincoln locked rear in his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Sure. You can weld it......have fun driving it on the road in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 No option for a detroit locker in your truck. So this would be no good for my rig...? https://www.4x4parts.com/catalog/product_in...roducts_id=5024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 No sir. Your rear axle has 33 splines. Not 31. There is no locker, other than the ARB that fits the R50 as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 yep...I second this...been researching far and wide ! arb locker is your only bet...(expensive I agree, but well worth it, according to those who have it..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dang... So front and rear air lockers are the way to go eh? Damn, that's a lotta $$$ after factoring in an air compressor, lines, etc... Yipes. BTW, I heard back from Mike @ AC. He said the LSD's they sell are built to OEM spec but are hardier than the stock R50 LSD...? Yet the BAT is the same as stock...? Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dang... So front and rear air lockers are the way to go eh? Damn, that's a lotta $$$ after factoring in an air compressor, lines, etc... Yipes.BTW, I heard back from Mike @ AC. He said the LSD's they sell are built to OEM spec but are hardier than the stock R50 LSD...? Yet the BAT is the same as stock...? Eh? Heheh......If it's the same BAT, and to OEM spec.....WTF did they change? NOTHING is my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDCCD Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I believe Lokka sells a front locker for us R50's. I never received a definitive reply as to the price to have one shipped to the states. I added LSD to the rear of my R50, somewhere there's a thread, but i wish i hadn't wasted my time and money. It's tough news, but it's out of love, save your coins and go ARB. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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