jgt Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I will have a friend put a used vg30e motor into my 1992 4x4 pathfinder. The used engine is off a '94 2wd truck. Will the oil pan and oil pump need to be swapped also? thanks. julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrailChaser Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) deleted comment Edited December 31, 2006 by TrailChaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgranch Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 The pan and oil pump on the 4wd is very unusual. I think you do need to swap them on the 2wd motor. Post and let us know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 definately the pan. 2wd and 4wd are different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 definately the pan. 2wd and 4wd are different yup. scott's right. the 2wd pan is smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Pan, pick up and dont for get to put a new gasket on the oil pick up tube.... Everything else should be a perfect match.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unccpathfinder Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 i donno for sure but i would def compare the pickup...i would think the 4wd pan is deeper which would mean the pickup tube should be deeper...i doubt they used the same 1 if they did i would think they would have just used the same pans for both to have cost savings...a side note...i'd do rear main seal while i was in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Phil Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Yes, you will have to swap pans and pickup at the least. Oil pump is (basically) the same. If you REALLY wanna get crazy, swap in a 300ZX oil pump. Higher volume. Also, the 4wd pan is deeper, but less total capacity, by almost a quart. But, the 2wd pan won't fit in a 4wd truck. At least not with the front diff and crossmember in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgranch Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I do not know what differences there are but the last time I bought a complete rebuild kit the oil pumps for the 2 wd and the 4 wd had different part numbers. The people I bought it from said it was differnt volumes but I do not believe they really knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 2wd and 4wd water pumps are different as well.... Oil pumps, the 4wd will have the tapped whole on the bottom for the timing belt cover, 2wd does not.... May have to use the 2wd timing cover stuff... 2wd should also have the timing mark and the 4wd doesnt, atleast none of my 4wd stuff had it... My 91's engine came from a 2wd, I stripped it down to the block and heads, cam and crank sprockets are the rounded ones vs the square from the 91, 2wd timing cover and water pump... intake up is original 91 stuff as well as the flywheel(had to repull the motor because the jdm did not match up with the starter... may have to pull it again rear main leaks after replacing it twice.... Pretty easy swap over... we are here to help if you hit a brick wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I think she got it all done already with a Maxima engine. I've read a post on another forum from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 she ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 nope not done yet. Need help. We are 12 hours into it tonight and cannot get the engine out. The front axle is in the way of the oil pan. Gary (my friend) has spent the last couple of hours trying to get that engine out. He's pooped. Ok, does he have to remove the 3rd cross member to get this engine out? it's a 92 4x4 model. thanks. julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Auto or Manual??? Auto should come out np with the Torque Convert disconnected at the flywheel... Manual... you get to drop the front Axel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 you guys rock. yes, manual. That's what he was afraid of. I will post pix when done. (wish us luck!) - jules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 ok, just so we are all close to the same page... Your 92 is a Manual 5speed??? Donor motor is coming from what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) we've stopped for the day. 14 hours donor motor: 2wd 1994 hardbody truck, auto ours: 4wd 1992 pathfinder xe 5 spd yes, I forsee brick walls. thanks guys and gals. now for a glass of wine and call it a night Edited December 20, 2006 by jgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Make sure you remove the auto trans pilot converter from the back of the crankshaft on the new engine before trying to drop it in and bolt it up. The auto-equipped engines got an additional collar inside the crank that the manual engines didn't get. You need a pilot bushing installed on the crank for the MT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I believe everything on the top is the same between the 2... Ask Slick about the auto trans pilot converter from the back of the crankshaft I dont know if your new motor has the 4wd waterpump, But while your in there, have some fun, Timing Belt, waterpump and t-stat.... Also while the donor motor is out you can swap out the exhaust studs... Much easier to work on when its out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 pix of donor motor w/ new w/p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) not letting me see the 1st page any more??? Edited December 20, 2006 by Casey.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 did you link the photo from your computer or a online site? if its online it could be one thats blocked by the disney filter on my laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgt Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 oops, newbie trying to post pix. I'll attach a link instead showing our progress. http://www.worldisround.com/articles/321738/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 You will notice between the 2 motors the new one does not have a tapped hole on the bottom of the oil pump, hopefully you still have the lower timing cover that came with the motor. That also has the 4wd water pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unccpathfinder Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Make sure you remove the auto trans pilot converter from the back of the crankshaft on the new engine before trying to drop it in and bolt it up. The auto-equipped engines got an additional collar inside the crank that the manual engines didn't get. You need a pilot bushing installed on the crank for the MT. on both the auto engine out of the maxima and out of wheelmans 95 auto i did not ever find this adaptor...just beat the pilot bushing in... for the timing belt cover...IIRC the 2wd truck is the same as the maxima...and when i built up the maxima engene i just used the same TB cover that it had just switched over from the short neck wp to the long neck wp (i know it was a hb i cant remember if it was 2wd or 4 im pretty sure it was 2wd tho)...and that way if for some reason you have a wp go bad right after a tb change u can pull it out of the middle of the belt with out effin with the belt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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