Guest chechatonga Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 (edited) By new I mean 2005 and up Than the older models ? Edited August 18, 2006 by chechatonga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhicks99 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I don't know for sure but I kinda doubt it, since the WD21 was such a great machine, I'd find it hard to believe they could do the same in a vehicle twice as large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Check out this thread, some discussion about the 96-04 Pathy vs Xterra, along with the current Pathy, might help. http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10427 And here is a review of the 05 Pathy that might help to explain what it is: http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/hl/05pathfinder.htm The final quote from that article tells a lot: "The Pathfinder has certainly gone upmarket in everything from size and amenities to price, and it's well suited to its new role. If you're lamenting the loss of the original Pathfinder, don't. It's still around, only now it's called Xterra." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 better? depends what points you want to measure it against. i think it get's better gas milage.. that might be about it as for better. i don't particularly love the newest design of either pathfinder or the xterra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vengeful Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 If you're looking for an SUV to haul the kids to soccer practice, pick up groceries and head to the Golf Course, then yes, it's better. If you're looking for something to actually use, and take off-road, then no, it's junk. The Independent rear suspension allows virtually NO articulation, and the most it can really do is fire roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 MZ said it best. Better for what ? No vehicle is good at all things, one must consider the usage... For traditional Pathfinder roles, I prefer the WD21 4 door... Should the new pathfinder be called the mallfinder ? B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
congochris Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm sure they can find paths fairly well..... actually using them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILLVOX Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 The new pathfinders shouldnt even be called pathfinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chechatonga Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) The new pathfinders shouldnt even be called pathfinders. Oh, I don't know they have potential http://www.purenissan.com/2005_preview1.htm Edited August 20, 2006 by chechatonga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giancarlo93 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Oh, I don't know they have potential http://www.purenissan.com/2005_preview1.htm Has this car been used? Or it was only a show car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Has this car been used?Or it was only a show car? No.. it has been shipped over to my boys or Iron Locust and we run one of the trails that we call home with it... Oh c'mon! :Magic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giancarlo93 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) Filthy if you are trying to make a joke I still dont get it! I want to know if this car is only a show car or somebody bought the car? Edited August 20, 2006 by giancarlo93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Plain and simple SEMA pig. A bunch of people threw parts at it to show off at aftermarket shows. BTW, something to concider with IRS is the CV angles, just like IFS. Yeah you can lift the end at the wheel, but not much before you need a diff drop kit. -thnkboutit- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chechatonga Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 IRS is the future. All the 4X4 ATVs have them, as do most of new production vehicles. You can learn how to make them work ------------ or drive antiques if you care to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 IRS is the future. All the 4X4 ATVs have them, as do most of new production vehicles. You can learn how to make them work ------------ or drive antiques if you care to ? Hehe... sure thing there. It's one thing on an ATV where it's light and you can make it happen with 9-10" of wheel travel without breaking stuff. As to antiques? Heck... the most capable thing I've seen is a 1970s Mog... and after that a late 80s Sammi equipped with 70s Ford axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 You can learn how to make them work ------------ or drive antiques if you care to ? Lets put it this way, a couple competition rock crawlers tried a fully IFS/IRS set up in IIRC the '02 season and got stomped. Only thing the IRS is good for is soccer moms' a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinnyPedal Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 If you're looking for an SUV to haul the kids to soccer practice, pick up groceries and head to the Golf Course, then yes, it's better. If you're looking for something to actually use, and take off-road, then no, it's junk. The Independent rear suspension allows virtually NO articulation, and the most it can really do is fire roads. Agreed! Would I be pissed if I traded in my WD21 for my 05? Yup. Hell I bought the thing on a whim and didn't even know it was IRS til I got it home and took a peek underneath The thing totally sux on the trail, but is great for hauling the kids around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyb33 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 ouch man, that sucks for you, good luck with the HUGE IRS piece of junk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chechatonga Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) Lets put it this way, a couple competition rock crawlers tried a fully IFS/IRS set up in IIRC the '02 season and got stomped. Only thing the IRS is good for is soccer moms' a$$. I guess the military missed that when they went to the Hummer vehicle for rough terrain ................... ? A IRS does just fine on moderate rough trails Rock crawlers almost never look like they would be road legal anyway ---------- LOL for rock crawling you can fab up something ... with a solid axle. Edited August 20, 2006 by chechatonga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giancarlo93 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Calmini just released a 5 inch suspension lift for the 2005-06 pathy, frontier and xterra! Edited August 21, 2006 by giancarlo93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinnyPedal Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) ouch man, that sucks for you, good luck with the HUGE IRS piece of junk... Perhaps you missed something...while it is a far better daily driver than your WD21, it simply is not as capable on the trails. BUT, it has probably already seen tougher trails than your "rig" (which by the way, looks like it's been slammed...they're called T Bars, try adjusting them) ever will. Having said that, the problem seems to be more the goofy traction control system...I can plant my foot on a good climb, but no spinny spinny and no momentum. Edited August 21, 2006 by SkinnyPedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ok, play nice or don't play at all... Agreed, traction control may be nice when going through the mountains in the winter or hitting ice, etc, it definitely hinders aggressiveness. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Perhaps you missed something...while it is a far better daily driver than your WD21, it simply is not as capable on the trails. BUT, it has probably already seen tougher trails than your "rig" (which by the way, looks like it's been slammed...they're called T Bars, try adjusting them) ever will. Having said that, the problem seems to be more the goofy traction control system...I can plant my foot on a good climb, but no spinny spinny and no momentum. Well said. The sad fact is that Nissan at this point is milking off the reputation of WD21s to sell more grocery getters. My truck is 14 years old and it's probably somewhere in the median of how old a properly wheeled Pathy is on this board. I can guarantee that in 14 years a 2005 Pathy won't be able to tackle half the crap that my daily driver sees off road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyb33 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Perhaps you missed something...while it is a far better daily driver than your WD21, it simply is not as capable on the trails. BUT, it has probably already seen tougher trails than your "rig" (which by the way, looks like it's been slammed...they're called T Bars, try adjusting them) ever will. ok, i have adjusted them, umm i have a 3 inch suspension...and currently have everything dissasembled ready for my SAS.... and how can you say it looks like its been slammed???? and personally i dont think a new (nearly) $30,000 vehicle is worth being just a daily driver. a huge ass car that blows in 4wd, strictly on road 4wd, isnt worth it....go buy an older MPV 4wd van. and even if you think my WD isnt a good daily drive, well then i agree with you, gas prices as they are, forced me to buy a honda. and even tho its old, its as nice a ride (inside) as any other vehicle on the road (IMO). i dont care what you say, the new SUVs and many of the trucks today make me wanna stick with early to mid 90s, or even older if i want a worthy trail rig..... -sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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