Ultimately, this was just a trial fitting. The bumper was there &[mention=37543]TowndawgR50[/mention] couldn’t help himself. Whoever the prior owner had weld it up did a mediocre job & made some mistakes in the mounting plate fitment. It would never have gone on without cutting, grinding, bending & welding (all by[mention=37543]TowndawgR50[/mention]). Also, it weighs 97# so @02_Pathy &[mention=32880]ferrariowner123[/mention] had to help muscle it up & hold it in place while he made fitment adjustments. It will need to come off for repainting and light & winch mounting - plus I’ll paint the seam, washer reservoir & intake resonators black. While it’s off,[mention=37543]TowndawgR50[/mention] wants to radius the corners & improve the welds (he’s a perfectionist & I’m gratefull). It does look good & I’m thankful to have it but I’ll probably switch it out once @pinestospines ([mention=36148]hawairish[/mention] &[mention=37543]TowndawgR50[/mention] ) finish development on their version. Those two just make a great team. They really think things through & are willing to go back & rework a problem until they get exactly what they want. Through discussion & first hand observation I have great faith in both of their judgements.